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#1 Catt

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Posted 29 September 2020 - 05:12 PM

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If the only goal of BBE is to earn has much money as possible completely disregarding any semblance of fairness, wouldn’t be better if you could just offer a “Win-It-All” prize for say, $5,000, and be done with it?
I know a couple of people who would buy it. Unlimited casinos are a legal way to cheat to the top for people with unlimited spending. Once or even twice per year can be “absorbed” without major issues, but this is the 4th time already this year an unlimited casino has been offered, and more will follow for sure. Strategies, trophies, studio fights... they don't mean anything any longer when you can get more SPs in a few days than you can in months of carefully planned playing time. 
Maybe the game is slowing dying and the Devs know it and try to get as much as they can before it’s too late. But this also means that they are accelerating its demise. If people don’t think they have a fair chance to obtain anything, why playing at all?
I do not buy diamonds, I play every day, I have no chance to be even close to someone that play 4 days in a year in unlimited casino. Again, Trophy's, studio fights, nothing is as important as casino.
 
So why do we all play, just for few people on this server can have fun getting stronger avatars then ours in a day, although we play every day whole year?
One unlimited casino in a year, all others must be limited, or items casino's, everything else is just humiliarion of regular players
 
Tell me what you think.....

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Posted 29 September 2020 - 05:41 PM

"Why are we playing this game...." I play to have fun, is there any other reason to play? I do know what you mean and do know who you mean, but honestly not sure what you mean by "cheat to the top". The players you don't mention have moved up, but are no where near the top, and after 4 years of playing, and close observation of the game, can say that they players you do not mention still have a long way to go.

While I agree that they are making it way too easy to gain sp with the casino, it is not the be all end all of the game. Having studio mates you can talk with and enjoy the game while playing makes the game much more enjoyable :)

 

Best wishes and I hope you can find a happy spot in this game. I understand your frustration and have felt it myself on other issues.

 

 

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If the only goal of BBE is to earn has much money as possible completely disregarding any semblance of fairness, wouldn’t be better if you could just offer a “Win-It-All” prize for say, $5,000, and be done with it?
I know a couple of people who would buy it. Unlimited casinos are a legal way to cheat to the top for people with unlimited spending. Once or even twice per year can be “absorbed” without major issues, but this is the 4th time already this year an unlimited casino has been offered, and more will follow for sure. Strategies, trophies, studio fights... they don't mean anything any longer when you can get more SPs in a few days than you can in months of carefully planned playing time. 
Maybe the game is slowing dying and the Devs know it and try to get as much as they can before it’s too late. But this also means that they are accelerating its demise. If people don’t think they have a fair chance to obtain anything, why playing at all?
I do not buy diamonds, I play every day, I have no chance to be even close to someone that play 4 days in a year in unlimited casino. Again, Trophy's, studio fights, nothing is as important as casino.
 
So why do we all play, just for few people on this server can have fun getting stronger avatars then ours in a day, although we play every day whole year?
One unlimited casino in a year, all others must be limited, or items casino's, everything else is just humiliarion of regular players
 
Tell me what you think.....

 


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Posted 29 September 2020 - 05:56 PM

Thank you for your opinion :)

Having fun is a part of the game, but let us go little deeper in distribution of rewards.

For example, me and my friends won 14 of 17 last Temples, now, that would be 119 days of playing, playing hard as a single players and as a Team. Now tell me, how many diamonds in unlimited casino will compensate our rewards for 14 victory's? 1k, 2? Do you think having fun and being held for stupid is actually fun? I know you do not :)

My point about Casino is not focused on one player only, it is just very unfair to us "free" players.

We are as important part of the game as people that buy diamonds, 

So, again, one unlimited casino a year for people that want to catch up with a game. Everything else is just telling regular "free" players that they should rather play solitaire lol.

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Posted 29 September 2020 - 06:17 PM

And yet, since movies are still the biggest producers of sp in the game, including the casino, free players are at a disadvantage there as well. So yes, free players are important ( I play free on nutaku and uk2) the pay to play players keep the game going, and the amount of sp gained during a casino is not as great as you might think it is.

         I complained about the pvp tournament being added as it took away the only advantage for dueling, to gain items, diamonds and notes without gaining xp and thus leveling. Very important for free players and low levels.

                       Good luck on this, I don't think they will change it.

 

 

 

Thank you for your opinion :)

Having fun is a part of the game, but let us go little deeper in distribution of rewards.

For example, me and my friends won 14 of 17 last Temples, now, that would be 119 days of playing, playing hard as a single players and as a Team. Now tell me, how many diamonds in unlimited casino will compensate our rewards for 14 victory's? 1k, 2? Do you think having fun and being held for stupid is actually fun? I know you do not :)

My point about Casino is not focused on one player only, it is just very unfair to us "free" players.

We are as important part of the game as people that buy diamonds, 

So, again, one unlimited casino a year for people that want to catch up with a game. Everything else is just telling regular "free" players that they should rather play solitaire lol.

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Posted 29 September 2020 - 06:41 PM

Diamonds play a much bigger role than just a few unlimited casinos.  I am not sure what casino you are playing but it would take many.many thousands of diamonds to truly make a difference over quality play, good teamwork, and building a player over time.

 

Also, you could say the same thing about Conventions.   Or on the servers that allow unlimited energy renewals.

 

Sadly, without any revenue, we would not have this game to play so if some want to waste tons of $$$ on diamonds, go ahead, but I'd rather be a team player than a mad-spender and choose more efficient ways to spend a few diamonds here and there.


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Posted 30 September 2020 - 01:53 AM

It is funny how a free player can complaian about the actions of those who choose to spend money in the game I know lots of real players in this game who play for free, and don't complain about those spending diamonds. But here I will offer a solution to the game abuse by diamond players like myself.  

1. Remove the refresh button from movie voting!                                  

2. Remove the refresh button from the movie selections. ( Studio's with movie trophies hold an unfair advantage over studio's that do not and with just a simple refresh of the movie offers can find more movie offers with better skill points)  

3. Use only limited play casino's up to the 33 plays. 

4. Recharge of the duels repeatedly needs to be limited to 1 a day! 

5. Limit of three of one type of trophy per studio! ( No more than 3 energy trophies per studio to hold Movies and Courage trophy's. 

 

Listed above is the 5 areas Big Bang Empire should look into in order to make the playing field more equal to all players either those who do not spend money and those that can and do. There is enough money being spent in the game by lots of players just refining items. Free player's are limited in this area and do not always get the best refinements offered and holds them at a disadvantage over players with unlimited budgets. 

 
Personally I think the most trophies of same type a studio should be allowed is 2 thus giving up and coming players and new studio's with the luck of finding aggressive players could possibly stand a chance to win temples -- After all is that not the purpose of the game to be in a studio and try to win temples. Lets level the playing field to be fair to new players and studio's they do not stand a chance in this game against players and studio's who have been here since the creation of US2 server. And kick out a few more trophies for new and upcoming studio's to enjoy for their hopes to win a temple.    

 

Make the game better by listening to the players would help a great deal.                                                                     



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Posted 30 September 2020 - 04:42 AM

Personally if they brought back the common worn items with a unique value I would be happy to settle for them being since I am the only player in this game that ever figured them out and how to find them, So please bring back those items I could really give everyone something to complain about by finding and using them.



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Posted 30 September 2020 - 08:43 AM

First of all, we do appreciate the feedback and honest feelings.

 

Secondly, these are my 2 cents on this, playing 1 server with diamonds etc, and another one as a free player just for fun. Honestly, I have more fun and joy in the free game, as I can see what I accomplish compared to others, mostly in the temple rankings. I'm a templar through and through. So the free account basically gives me no stress at all. I have no goals to become top5 player or whatsoever. I just play for fun and it gives great pleasure. Also I get quite some joy in reaching high in solo temples, like top50, without even spending or any trophies. 

 

In opposite, I have my "large" account, I furiously play for back in the top again like before my year sabbatical, I spend for movie refreshes, etc. It gives more stress, it gives less joy. The joy I take from it, is raising my skills vs level and becoming stronger than someone else. And the joy I get from being top3 to top10 in solo temple. But I can say, winning (solo) temples and doing movies is where strengths come from, I got this out of my own experiences, and I believe Mountbara can confirm that.

 

Difference in spins was 10 vs 50, and basically the difference in gifts was nominal. I think 39 were paid with diamonds. Yes, more items on the paid account, yes a few more skills (20 vs 8), and some xp and energy differences. But why would I want more energy already? That just equals more (obligated) play time.

 

We've had a player on the other server, that spend an enormous amount of diamonds on the unlimited casino last time, probably more than a full 50 dollar pack. He kept trying to get energy for winning the solo temple, but eventually? My studio friend still beat him by saved successes and energy vouchers. I was close behind him at the same time, and didn't do all that many spins either. Casino is mostly about luck and just a small addition. So the difference it makes, is very nominal.


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Posted 01 October 2020 - 02:54 AM

DParadise there are players on US2 who will spend way more than 100 dollars a day at the casino, the rewards are as follows I know because I have and this is based on a 6 day unlimited casino.. 

1, Goldframe items 21 closets filled first day, the rest sold for notes for the next 5 days.

2. A 6 day unlimited casino, a player can net 1 years worth of boosters " Mine are good for April 2023 right now"  

3. Stat boosters close to 3,000 collected in that 6 days when uploaded translates to double that amount to skill levels or 6,000 points

4. Energy collected in a day can range from 1.200 to over 2,000 energy each day. A mere 100 dollars in diamonds and instant finishes . allows a player to use 2,000 energy easy in a day I know I have done it.  

5. the continued increase of item stats each day can net a player another 100+ stat points from items by the end of the casino. 

 

What I have just listed is a itemized look into a diamond spenders dream at the casino and yes the game has realized from since last year when the first unlimited casino took place and players were mad at me for collecting so many skill points from it. There was another player last year like cat has just done here, complained how unfair it is to free players. I hear that a lot but in reality's all players buy diamonds for one thing or another in this game it is because of the complaint last year about unlimited casino that the game did a few short takes on it this summer to see if more players had become wiser to the rewards that can be made. BBE learned that players will spend the diamonds in the unlimited casino probably more than from convention temples that give no rewards other than those offered in temple placings. 

 

A word to all players out there Big Bang Empire is in the business to make money and when they find something like the unlimited casino can and does produce that money for them. Then you can plan on seeing more unlimited casino's I guess you can go buy a deck of cards for 3 dollars and play solitary if that makes you feel better.  :)



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Posted 01 October 2020 - 11:57 AM

Sorry to say, but that's just insane. I think I speak for many, that we don't want to endlessly click to do 1000 spins, as well as the regular game, which costs several hours as well. As far as it goes on nearly all servers, people just don't spend those amounts as it's just a game. it's supposed to be fun, not an obsession.


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Posted 01 October 2020 - 12:40 PM

Hey Hotlipps, after reading your stats on spending, all I can say is WOW!   This is a game.   A game that does not give back real-world $$$ so why in the world spend $100's at a casino just to spin until your mouse finger is numb?    Have you tried playing without spending for a week?   Maybe give a fair shot to other players who can't or won't spend $100's on a game but instead want to enjoy the game and hopefully a little friendly competition.

 

Perhaps it is just your server as the 4 I am on, other that a couple of players spending a ton on Conventions, no one else goes overboard with their spending.   We spend enough to keep the game going but not so much that we could buy a car with what we invest on diamonds.


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Posted 02 October 2020 - 08:20 AM

Games like this are PAY TO WIN.  And "he who shall not be named" has confirmed it.

 

On the other hand, I'm going to shamelessly troll this post and say: Come to International 2.  Diamonds users do not go overboard there.  I don't even spend diamonds on boosters anymore.



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Posted 06 October 2020 - 03:19 PM

Bah to the casino!!! The entire point of the game is to collect room scents and upgrade your room. I thought everyone knew that. Room upgrades are exactly how to rate, and judge every player in the game.And are by far the most addictive thing in BBE. If you still have a creepy peeper starring through your window I don't care if you're level 600, you're still a noob. Love you all. Bagger out.



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Posted 30 October 2020 - 07:52 AM

Hi everyone :)

Devs really did it this time. Game has no meaning anymore, having trophy's, studio strategies, everything is so unimportant with this ammount of unlimited casino's.

I am announcing that I am leaving this game. If you devs think that you can keep game running with only few players that spend enormuos ammount of diamonds, I think you are wrong.

I know what me and my friends achieved for little more then 1 year of playing, we left a mark here. We have won 11 last temples.We created studio with 4 sometimes 5 movie trophies and defended it for 4 months against people with unlimited resources. Well, you will have that studio of Shield Maidens gone in few days, at least 15 players will leave game.

I hope new players will get to read this message just to realize what they are dealing with. Do not spend time here trying to upgrade your Avatar or build a studio, if you are not ready to spend 50 usd a day, everything is useless.

 

Have fun you all,, especially Devs :)

 

 


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Posted 30 October 2020 - 08:43 AM

I believe this discussion has been made before, therefor I will loop this to where it belongs.

 

Please continue on a discussion rather than create new topics about the same.

 

 

 

Whether or not you chose to play, is your own choice. I rather hunt for the chips, and since you can save your chips for a next casino, it is very possible to have more than 30 spins saved up. So basically, you will restrict those people that rather save up for another casino to lose out their chances to use those savings? 

 

Also please be aware that we have not seen anyone use 50 dollars per day on the casino in diamonds ;)



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Posted 30 October 2020 - 08:49 AM

Why are you moving my post? We do not have right to say what we think. Iti s new Topic, we are leaving a game and want to explaine why.


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Posted 30 October 2020 - 08:51 AM

Why are you moving my post? We do not have right to say what we think. Iti s new Topic, we are leaving a game and want to explaine why.

 

You are discussing the unlimited casino, therefor it is the same discussion, the attention you will get will not change.



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Posted 30 October 2020 - 08:54 AM

Why are you editing your posts, to look as you are right?

Saving what chips when we have people take 10k turns in casino everyday?

You have seen people saying they are spending 150usd per day in casino.

It is my choice to leave, I have a right to say why, so other players (new) know what they are3 dealing with

And I am not some new player, I am leading best studio on US2 server, with my friends, we have won 11 last Temples.


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Posted 30 October 2020 - 08:59 AM

All I can say is: best of luck in real life.



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Posted 30 October 2020 - 09:03 AM

Can you do something, like move my post in a new Topic where I started it so people can see it?

Or best way for you is to hide it?


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