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#1 SlicerDicer

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Posted 20 December 2016 - 12:34 AM

The Conventional success in Wild Christmas in Tellville seems to be rigged to require diamonds

 

The first page description is:

0 of 1 times successfully participated at the Christmas convention.

 

I just ran through it did shows for 3 hours (yeah free xp & money so not all bad).  However the item did not clear. Of course I got a failed event since there is only 1 success at the convention.  Meaning the successfully participated means get the Success result from the convention.

 

Since the other four items can be completed playing the game normally why is the convention so restrictive?  

 

There can only be 1 "success" in each convention regardless if diamonds are spent or not.  Based on the schedule there will only be 6 more players that can get the skill point reward from that event.  Everyone else will need to spend diamonds. Granted the winner of the event is usually the one that spend the most diamonds but that would be nitpicking.


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#2 RosyCheekz

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Posted 20 December 2016 - 04:34 AM

It's not THAT restrictive, I think. The wording in the challenge seems to indicate that you have to participate in a successful convention (rare enough on the Nutaku server). 1 show will probably suffice if we can get a successful convention. If not, we'll all have to pony up the diamonds to succeed at the event.

 

  Looks like they realize their convention goals are unrealistic, since you only (ONLY???) have to have one succeed during the 10-day run. Imagine if you had to do it 5 times to succeed!


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#3 Foxy_Redhead

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Posted 20 December 2016 - 01:55 PM

The wording in the challenge seems to indicate that you have to participate in a successful convention (rare enough on the Nutaku server).

That's what I got out of it too. I participated in last night's event too and we didn't even get to half of the required score to make it a success. Sad to hear succesfull conventions are rare on NU1.



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Posted 20 December 2016 - 02:58 PM

I was wondering about that.  At first I thought it meant one just had to participate.  Need to lower the goal for a successful convention on NU1 Server.  I participated a lot and now I have nothing to show for it.


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Posted 20 December 2016 - 07:35 PM

It's confirmed. There was a successful convention at 1AM PST. Participation resulted in clearing this mission. 

 

It seems that the conventions held within 2 hours of reset have reachable goals. The rest, not so much.



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Posted 20 December 2016 - 08:31 PM

It's confirmed. There was a successful convention at 1AM PST. Participation resulted in clearing this mission. 

 

It seems that the conventions held within 2 hours of reset have reachable goals. The rest, not so much.

Any idea what the goal was for that convention? The one taking place roughly 24 hours ago had a goal of 12 million.



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Posted 20 December 2016 - 09:39 PM

i have been complaining about conventions and the stupidly unrealistic goals on Nutaku for a while.

 

And they have made it worse, all the time.  I have no (non-achievement related) reason to even look at conventions anymore. The only thing I want out of conventions is energy - and it is cheaper and much more time efficient to spend diamonds to just buy the extra energy now.

 

That means people spending diamonds have no reason to run conventions, ever. Other than bragging rights for stupidly expensive but temporary equipment, anyway.


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Posted 20 December 2016 - 09:46 PM

Any idea what the goal was for that convention? The one taking place roughly 24 hours ago had a goal of 12 million.

It was about 750k in an hour. It seems our conventions are either cakewalks or impossible: nothing in between. Sad, really.



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Posted 20 December 2016 - 09:52 PM

We can even make it easy for you Nutaku / Playata, whoever decides the scaling on conventions:

 

Conventions on nu1.bigbangempire.com, that need more than 2M visitors / hour, are going to fail.  Period.  We just don't have the server population to generate more than that.

 

Your algorithms need to take server population into account.


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#10 Foxy_Redhead

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Posted 20 December 2016 - 10:07 PM

It was about 750k in an hour. It seems our conventions are either cakewalks or impossible: nothing in between. Sad, really.

Christ, really? Damn! The 12 million one ran for three hours.



#11 Sadie2

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Posted 20 December 2016 - 10:30 PM

I'm with you there CaptC.  It is pretty ridiculous.


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#12 SlicerDicer

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Posted 21 December 2016 - 01:16 AM

I just want to clarify some thing since it appears I was mistaken on how conventions work.

 

In order for the convention to be a "success" a certain number of visitors must attend and that count comes from the fan count per show of each player?  

 

meaning a player that has 10 million fans will aid in the convention being a success far more then a player with only 45 thousand fans given they do the same number of shows?

 

If so where can I see the number of visitors required when a convention is running?



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Posted 21 December 2016 - 02:32 AM

I just want to clarify some thing since it appears I was mistaken on how conventions work.

 

In order for the convention to be a "success" a certain number of visitors must attend and that count comes from the fan count per show of each player?  

 

meaning a player that has 10 million fans will aid in the convention being a success far more then a player with only 45 thousand fans given they do the same number of shows?

 

If so where can I see the number of visitors required when a convention is running?

 

I don't think the amount of fans your character has determines how much you assist with a convention; for one the winner of a (succesfull) convention is determined by how many shows they did.

 

The number required for success (and the server's progress) is displayed on the convention icon in a thermometer style. You also see that same progress meter when you click on the convention button to join for a show.



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Posted 22 December 2016 - 02:23 AM

Hey! They listened! The current convention is definitely improved from the first one!  Instead of 2hrs for 12M fans, this one is 2hrs for ONLY 10M FANS!

 

(I would swear foully at you, Nutaku, but forum rules prohibit me from saying anything negative.)

 

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Upper limit on nu1.bigbangempire.com is roughly 2M fans per hour.  Not kidding.

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I gave this one 12 minutes, confirmed that rate of fan increase is approximately half of what is necessary, and very much in line with 2M per hour, and went back to farming party tickets.


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#15 SlicerDicer

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Posted 22 December 2016 - 02:30 AM

i am not sure how the count is increasing but it would appear that the 12/21 6pm convention will fail. the count was 247k needed for 1.6 million in the first 30 minutes.

 

So basically spending diamonds on this event is incredibly stupid. infact i might as well use my timie to try and get 1 more ticket. i have much better chance at that then the server getting a success on the convention.


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#16 Foxy_Redhead

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Posted 22 December 2016 - 10:09 PM

Okay, there's a convention going on right now and it's... 8.7 million in 2 hours.

 

Crap.



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Posted 22 December 2016 - 10:15 PM

Yeah, not much better.


You don't know, that I know

You watch me every night

And I just can't resist the urge to stand here in the light

Your greedy eyes upon me

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And I could close the curtains

But this is too much fun

 

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#18 Foxy_Redhead

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Posted 22 December 2016 - 11:00 PM

Just like expected: at the one hour mark we're at only 1.7 million.



#19 SlicerDicer

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Posted 23 December 2016 - 04:23 AM

wow. today's 8pm EST convention only has to reach 759K visitors in one hour and at 20 minutes in we are at 169k.  I don't know what formula the developers are using but it sucks. and to be honest the rewards are not good enough to commit an hour to lesser overall exp/money versus regular map



#20 Foxy_Redhead

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Posted 23 December 2016 - 11:00 AM

wow. today's 8pm EST convention only has to reach 759K visitors in one hour and at 20 minutes in we are at 169k.  I don't know what formula the developers are using but it sucks. and to be honest the rewards are not good enough to commit an hour to lesser overall exp/money versus regular map

I don't understand. Why are there these huge differences between convention goals?






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